Issue 1:
Michael Sullivan, elder, never settled in Saratoga
Springs. According to John Conway's family
oral history, Michael and Julia returned to Ireland,
specifically to Kenmare from where he was originally.
Michael Emmett Sullivan settled in Saratoga Springs;
note Census 1855 which lists him living
sister
Margaret Sullivan Moran, age 18 yrs.
Issue: in 1855 he would have been 13 yrs.
There is confusion in the 1855 and 1860 Saratoga
Springs census in other instances. The 1860
census has him working in Greenfield.
- Where did
Michael and Julia live in NYC?
- When did Michael
and Julia return to Ireland?
- Where in Ireland
did they return?
- If they returned
they must have done so by 1855 when Michael
Emmett, their youngest, went to live with his
sister in Saratoga Springs. Can we find a
death record for Michael or Julia in the Irish
archives after 1855? Can we find Griffiths
Valuation records for Michael?
Issue 2:
Florence Sullivan's death certificate (confirmed)
lists his mother as Anna James. This helps
make sense of Julia O'Connell being only 28 years of
age when arriving in the U.S. in 1848. It
appears that Michael, the elders, first wife Anna
James died and he remarried to Julia O'Connell.
There is a marriage of a Michael Sullivan to Julia
O'Connell in Feb 19, 1841 in GlenFleske, County
Kerry. Glenfleske is near Killarney a short
distance from Kenmare. If Michael Sullivan was
on the Landsdown Estate this would make sense
because permission was required to marry on the
estate.
- Was Michael
Sullivan, the elder, married twice?
- Was Anna James
his first wife?
- Was Julia
O'Connell his second wife?
- Was the marriage
performed in GlenFleske?
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- Need to check
the death certificate for Johanna Sullivan
Harrington (eldest child) at St. Peters,
Saratoga Springs for her mother.
- Michael
Sullivan and Julia Connell are listed on Mary
Sullivan Sweeney's death certificate:

- Bob found LDS documentation for Michael Sullivan and
Julia Connell which states that Julia was 28 yrs
when Michael was 48.
I found
passenger ship records that list a Michael
Sullivan, age 48 yrs, and Julia Connell, age 28
yrs, arriving on the Fidelia in 1848.
These dates match. The controversy is that
if Julia is 28 yrs in 1848 then she would have
been born in 1820. The same year as
Johanna her daughter which would not be
possible.
I did
find a death certificate for Florence Sullivan
in Saratoga Springs which states he died Dec 1,
1882. This death certificate states his
mother is Anna James, his is a cartman, spent 30
years in U.S. (consistent with arriving here in
1851). The issue is whether this is indeed
the same Florence as our family member.
This could explain Julia being born in 1820 and
that Johanna's mother was Anna James.
My great
grandfather Florence had a probate record in
Saratoga Springs listing Nov 28, 1883.
The issue is that the actual date is 1 year
later than the death certificate above.

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